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I think of the "average" person as being someone who likes having a dog around, and wants the dog to know how to sit and walk nicely on a leash and eliminate outside and not bark all the time, but doesn't see the need to train behaviors aside from those. Basically, someone who wants a "good" dog but isn't interested in putting in a lot of effort. There's a reason labs and goldens are often suggested as "beginner" dogs, right? I know several people with those breeds who haven't done any real training besides maybe teaching their dogs to sit, but the dogs have picked up on how the owners want them to behave and it looks like the owners have worked with them. I believe that if the people put in even a bit more effort, the dogs would learn whatever the people wanted them to know very quickly, whereas my AKK would walk all over them -- and he's not even one of the "difficult" breeds.

But then once people start learning about training and putting in more effort, they're not really "average" dog owners anymore, are they?


Not by that definition, nope - they'll start rising up out of average.

Plus - that's not really training a dog well. I mean, I know dogs do a lot in figuring us out when we DO train them well, but if they have to basically do ALL the work, then they aren't being trained.

And yep, those are often considered "beginner dogs" but I guess folks forget that these dogs still need stuff beyond sitting and peeing outside. I mean, those are energetic sporting dogs used to running and traveling long distances and the mental challenges of spotting and retrieving game, often following the handler's direction of need be. What's ironic is their intellect and biddability probably will have them "asking" their people "what are we gonna do today? huh? huh? huh?" and then the dog is "hyper and pushy" now.

Shoot, if all they want is some sits and peeing outside, probably any dog on that list could give them that, even if they have to bribe them for it (which still isn't training).

I think that average person doesn't want a dog, they want an animal that looks like a dog but doesn't make any sound and doesn't have a mind of their own.

No idea how "average" is, but I found it kind of interesting because not many pet owners I know of ask about books about OC, CC, and the like, don't care about competition behaviors...they just want advice to make their dog pee outside/shut up when told. Most people that spend time on a dog forum want to know more than the average joe.

Yeah - like I said to Crantastic, an animal that looks like a dog but doesn't have a mind of their own and doesn't make any noise (so they should at least communicate via supersonic hearing so they are seen, petted when I feel like it, and not heard)

Never mind that the dog is probably barking because it's them trying to create their own stimulation because they aren't getting any. Mr/Mrs. Average probably never thought of that. They just think the dog is disobeying and therefore must be punished (or worse, given up/pts, and they continue look for this mythical dog-look-a-like animal).

I think that list isn't so much easiest for the average owner, but easiest for the average dog trainer/owner-with-a-trainer-mindset. I could see an average trainer achieving success with the 'easier' dogs that put up more with inconsistent signals, weaker (not outright horrible) timing, poorer (not outright clueless) execution, or just not having a clear idea of what the behavior should look like, so accept weaker/wrong versions of the correct behavior, but the dog figures it out fast and gives the right response almost every time and this issue rarely shows up.

Meanwhile, the 'harder' dogs are probably just more unorthodox in how you approach them (so basic out-of-the-book methods probably won't fly, at least not without modification) and the average trainer would struggle more.

The average dog owner would struggle with them all, especially with what was said in Culture Clash.



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